Difference between revisions of "Talk:Veranda"

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RA 7/9/15: Perhaps we should take another look at Downing's use of "pavilion" and "veranda." He never associates them in his treatise, where he talks about pavilions as detached garden and likens them to temples and rustic seats. For example:

"a prospect tower or rustic pavilion, on a little eminence overlooking the whole estate..."

"The temple and the pavilion are highly finished forms of covered seats"

"With regard to pavilions, summer-houses, rustic seats, and garden edifices of like character.... a classic temple or pavilion may crown a beautiful and prominent knoll, and a rustic covered seat may occupy a secluded, quiet portion of the grounds..."

"Large and costly hot-houses were erected by Dr. Hosack, with also entrance lodges at two points on the estate, a fine bridge over the stream, and numerous pavilions and seats commanding extensive prospects..."

The only passage that associates veranda and pavilion seems to be making the point that there is no good word for the exceptional feature he is describing--it is kind of like a piazza and kind of like a pavilion, but not exactly either:

"On the right of this hall is a noble veranda, which, for want of a better name, we call the pavilion.... It affords something more than a veranda, viz. a room in the open air, the greatest luxury in a warm summer; significance..."

[KP 7/2/15] In the third paragraph there is a quote from Rev. Manasseh Cutler describing Monticello without a citation.

RA 7/9/15: I have looked through all the keyword term binders and done many Google searches without finding the source for the paraphrased Manasseh Cutler quote on Monticello.

[KP 6/22/15] I've divided "Piazza/Veranda/Porch/Portico" into four separate pages. As of now, they have the same history essay with the exception that there are no double brackets around the word of the given page; for example, "Portico" is placed in double brackets on the "veranda" page, but not on the "portico" page.The texts and images are particular to each key term.

TOM "view from veranda at Egglesfield..." Watson add to essay?

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-RA 7/9/15: Perhaps we should take another look at Downing's use of "pavilion" and "veranda." It sounds to me like he is drawing a distinction when he says: "
+RA 7/9/15: Perhaps we should take another look at Downing's use of "pavilion" and "veranda." He never associates them in his treatise, where he talks about pavilions as detached garden  and likens them to temples and rustic seats. For example: <p></p>
-is that they  I cannot find "pavilion" used in the sense of "veranda" in Downing's treatise. He seems to equate pavilions with detached garden structures, such as temples and rustic seats. Here is what he says: <p></p>
 : "a prospect tower or rustic pavilion, on a little eminence overlooking the whole estate..."<p></p>
 : "The temple and the pavilion are highly finished forms of covered seats"<p></p>
 : "With regard to pavilions, summer-houses, rustic seats, and garden edifices of like character.... a classic temple or pavilion may crown a beautiful and prominent knoll, and a rustic covered seat may occupy a secluded, quiet portion of the grounds..."<p></p>
-: "Large and costly hot-houses were erected by Dr. Hosack, with also entrance lodges at two points on the estate, a fine bridge over the stream, and numerous pavilions and seats commanding extensive prospects..."
+: "Large and costly hot-houses were erected by Dr. Hosack, with also entrance lodges at two points on the estate, a fine bridge over the stream, and numerous pavilions and seats commanding extensive prospects..."<p></p>
+The only passage that associates veranda and pavilion seems to be making the point that there is no good word for the exceptional feature he is describing--it is kind of like a piazza and kind of like a pavilion, but not exactly either: <p></p>
+: "On the right of this hall is a noble veranda, which, for want of a better name, we call the ''pavilion''....  It affords something more than a veranda, viz. a room in the open air, the greatest luxury in a warm summer; significance..."